9 Tuning Cars underestimated
2012-December 53 posted 20-7 pm AEST modified 2012-Dec-20 8 15 hours AEST.
1 Audi just sitting in an A4 B8 last week, if you call the plastic they use in the Lexus IS cheap; Damn, the Audi was made of the same rubbery plastic that your daily Camry is made and added that the same trim silver plastic Camry handles better and smoother and 1 8T, I didn imagine it to be so bad but it was horrible I don t find it surprising that the resale value on these things are abominable.
Although I could add to this, the A6 A7 A8 is very pleasant The A5 is nice but the only drawback is the atrocity of A4 inside he shares.
Na, Toyota doesn t claim to have the best cars They know they have cars for the masses and the market as such.
Some people seem to think luxury VW, Audi as good cars, better than average, but not VW is really prestigious.
Mazda make good cars, drive nice, but I do not know why everybody loves it here.
I'm surprised Jag has not been mentioned yet Sure, you may not like Audi's or VWS, but we're talking about over rated Audi and VW are classified as slightly less than BMW and Merc, which is about right, Jag gift t deserve to have their land barges over a Commodore evaluated.
I'm not surprised Jag has not been mentioned yet that I am no more surprised mentioned Holden, or should I say Daewoo.
Aston Martin deserve mention I never buy a British car.
Ugly overpriced and boring, I can not believe that Lexus is considered the luxury He was so uninteresting to be yawning.
Inside A4 is considered the benchmark for quality.
Inside A4 may seem a little more tech savvy than the pre-facelift cars series C-Class 3, but their finish shape and material quality is an absolute joke.
Go to a Mercedes BMW Lexus and rate the accuracy of the gaps they have every millimeter of very tight allocations for the panels, there is not It is flush and plastics and materials feel like metal real and soft touch plastic Settle into a base model Audi, there are problems everywhere Mounting do and it is not all in matte plastic expensive Mercedes takes effort to put an enamel coating on the plastic buttons to give the driver the feeling of quality and really do any last while Audi is just pop the plastic mold.
Reviews can say one thing, but the messages on the beneficial owners of forums which are to put up with this ridiculously market luxury car is another course, if you have never owned a BMW MB Lexus before and just test drove a then an Audi could be better than your Holden everyday but the owners who own both simultaneously and must drive the cars would daily note differences in quality.
N B Watch the Audi A6 and up and the quality is comparable.
The seller said everyone wants the latest, but there's nothing wrong with technology 2006 Chery J11.
Chery, Great Wall and Malaysian Proton are not overrated Marques; they rate t at all Some chassis, engine and drive-train most famous Marqués, but the build quality is known to miss.
Lower spec Lexus models, the Hyundai i30 and most VW badged cars are overrated, IMHO YMMV.
I love my cars and I'm just interested in the opinions of others No offense intended for people who are driving vehicles brands above.
Toyota is trying to reorganize their much every other manufacturer marketing strategies here in Australia Their turbulent history justified to follow in trying to bring their essential sales by offering special rewards programs for new and used cars from its range.
Toyota and Lexus are the worst I hate Toyotas because it's not much good offers and Styling choice is bland at least with Lexus there are some who looks better; but in a Toyota and much more expensive just to get that extra bonus of being better built.
Ugly overpriced and boring, I can not believe that Lexus is considered the luxury He was so uninteresting to be yawning.
Yeap, can certainly agree with that is almost trying to compare with a Chrysler 300 C, is cheaper, but trying to be luxury at the same time; but at least it gives you a wide range of engine options with Lexus While not really.
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Toyota and doesn t compared to the recent total domination shows Audi, no, Toyota doesn t.
Forget for a minute that Audi has been in motorsport since the beginning of time.
I recognize Toyota has done well in word rally, but they were exposed for cheating, so the campaign is not applicable Their F1 was a joke too.
Anyway, everyone who owns Lexus scream blue murder if you dare call a Toyota So where is the legacy of the Lexus motorsports, compared with BMW, Mercedes and Audi as they are in some way in same league, as was mentioned in passing in the post.
Sure VW and Audi are overvalued, they were Nazi cars, with Audi as part of the Auto Union where the 4 rings.
Lexus Toyota Prestige Sorry leading some they do not feel cheap and plasticy within at least the models until 2010 did.
I'll add it to Jeep, another luxury brand that's cursed by our tax system does not mention that I even found the Calais better overall car than the previous 300C can t comment on the current model.
Anyway, everyone who owns Lexus scream blue murder if you dare call a Toyota.
I do not know how you can say with a straight face, then classifies Audi as a premium brand All catalog Audi below an A6 is it underpins the platform chassis parts shared with the rest in the VW group cars representing more than 80 Audi sales are VWS primarily with pleasant interiors essentially However, when a Lexus owner complains about people like you call tarted Toyotas, where is your proof sedans they sell in Aust LS, GS, iS do not share a chassis with a Toyota, which is more than can be said for Audi and their cars are actually assembled in their Japanese design country while most Audis BMW Mercs that clean people assembled outside of Germany, which was one of the reasons why these brands have suffered quality finishing adjustment issues.
I speak from personal experience having owned or currently own a Mercedes, a BMW and a Lexus, and I can tell you it's pretty clear that the car was the most problem free run, not to mention was the most beautiful exterior and interior finishing adjustment Although I must admit that Merc recently resumed their game significantly and the current Ec are both very nice Even my most loving German car addict from a friend who essentially passes between Merc BMW Audi on a constant basis has essentially given up on Audi after taking in her Audi S5 back to 6 times over a period of 18 months for things to be fixed replaced.
And I find it ironic when people speak of Motorsport and German cars 90 BMW AUDIS Mercs heritage on our roads are the base model 320i A4 January 8 C200 which are about as far from the real performance models in their catalogs you can get is just as Wheels magazine noted in their review of the F30 3 series in the COTY voting; you need the optional Adaptive M suspension to manage anything like a luxury sports sedan, it's supposed to be, but his option flowed only 5 owners in Australia.
Why do you say that Opel has almost no hype associated with them so that they are not really what you call overrated Low key is how I best describe and certainly in Australia, you would be hard to find many Opel fans to disseminate this scenerio overrated.
The hype is in their own marketing as a brand that is higher than it actually is.
And I find it ironic when people talk about German cars and motorsport heritage.
To be fair pedigree of motorsport, I think is just a bunch of marketing crap.
It is like any conduct discharge and handling Lotus Proton just because they have Lotus.
Certainly there are a few manufacturers whose cars are based on the road or use a few pieces of their race cars, but the vast majority of cars on our roads have no correlation between them and the cars their manufacturers come to the race.
So yes, Audi better than the Toyota motorsport pedigree But when was the last time you walked into an Audi A4 and thought Jeez, this feels like the A4 DTM touring car here aye.
For me, the most overvalued car company in Australia should be VW Audi and they're just not what they will see and be neither their prices reflect that and in terms of their basic vehicles Audi is well behind the competition .
Wait a second, you have two GCS Why reading through your other messages, you also have 2 Nissan Dualis and X-Trail TL.
5 SUV 4WDs That's cool with me, but probably stay away from hatred What is the SUV wire.
We TL 2011 Nissan X-Trail diesel purchased together and beat didnt missed.
I was lucky, my 2008 TL was good most of the time and I avoided the oil leaks that plague the Renault engine, but when things go wrong Nissan will not come to the party with warranty repairs without a massive fight.
When my roof leaked, and warped the blind and marked the roof with water damage, Nissan blame me not to do regular maintenance when the only maintenance that could be done was to remove the caps, and blow the drainage holes with a compressed air gun, which realistically could be done by a mechanic or dealer, which is where I took it for maintenance.
I can not decide if this thread is interesting or useless, as I think almost all car manufacturers mentioned.
So either everyone as a whole is a whiner, or no product a good car over.
I can not decide if this thread is interesting or useless, as I think almost all car manufacturers mentioned.
There are two brands that are mentioned more than all others combined.
I can not decide if this thread is interesting or useless, as I think almost all car manufacturers mentioned.
Its a pointless thread if your in the market for a new car like me.
According to this thread, I can probably reduce my options until Ferrari porsche lambo.
Unlike local and cars mixed versus refrigerator on wheels of Japanese cars with the exception of high-end models such as etc. RTG
Must have hit a nerve is hit with this It's ironic that you accuse me of being a zealot, despite you to go blind crusade is littered with incorrect statements The funny thing is that I did not even bash the vehicle, because they make some great vehicles.
Whether a vehicle sells or not has nothing to do with it being overpriced almost all cars in this country is expensive, but some European brands illustrate this trend.
It may be too expensive for the person who doesn t buy it.
Some don t give a toss about the reliability so any Toyota is overrated some gift t give a toss about the performance so any sports car is overrated.
Non sequitur not caring much a characteristic of a car is simply irrelevant characteristic as a selling point, not too expensive.
Some simply Hitch their tired old pony up the bandwagon and slag VW brand, even if the manufacturer doesn t actually promote the brand the way it is suggested.
I slagged nothing VW make good cars, and our price is very competitive days so they aren t obviously one of the brands I mentioned.
I can not decide if this thread is interesting or useless, as I think almost all car manufacturers mentioned.
So either everyone as a whole is a whiner, or no product a good car over.
This is because the terms overrated and overpriced are not objective.
The most overrated car brand What to buy, Furthermore, overrated, brand.